Post by brotherjerm on Oct 4, 2005 2:01:34 GMT -5
Many who read this will reject it. Because its true. Jesus was true and He was rejected by religious leaders and people. As was Peter, Paul, James, John, etc. Look at Steven they killed him also, a martyr. Possibly even Paul after his preaching to the heathen on Mars hill. You know Paul never quoted scripture as most other times. He passed by an inscrription reading, "TO THE UNKNOWN GOD", whom they ignorantly worshipped. Then he began preaching the creation story to these heathen. Well latter he got stoned. I wonder if Paul died, and then arose, or he can hold his breath a long time???? Is Paul speaking of himself, when he says I once knew a man caught up into the third heaven???
Anyway got way off the subject. I think I'll start A bible study of the life and ministry of Paul.....mmmm......., Ya cool I think I will. So all join in!
So what I'm trying to say if in first, rejection is is your option taken, look a little deeper, scripture will reprove all lies, like this blasting out of here in a "Rapture" before tribulation starts.
Before Christ comes to gather us, I believe we must endure tribulation. Many will become martyrs as Steven. Being beheaded for the witness of Christ. Some will remain, God sustainting them from the pain through their faith. They will preach the word of God as powerful as ever. Two of them the two witnesses will be killed then brought back to life. Things are going to get very troublesome. So if you can't stand and endure sound doctrine now how can you then, in times of trouble??
Oddly enough The word rapture is never used, I don't fall for the false greek interpretation of "Rapturo". I believe in Christs second coming. Daniel states 3 1/2 years, from the time the daily sacrifice is again implemented into Solomons temple with the daily sacrifice over the Ark of the Covenant, untill the abomination of desolation is set up. The anti-christ himself claiming to be God, I pressume. Well the job isn't open, its already filled by the only qualifying entries, God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit of God!!
Then great tribulation (Gods wrath), note not "The 7 year Tribulation", will begin. Nothing short of our departure to meet the Lord in the air. Then we go before the Judgement Seat of Christ, receive our crowns (rewards for our decisions on earth now), then attend the Marriage supper of the Lamb (Talk about Spiritual meat).
As we are at the Supper, Gods wrath, 6th and 7th broken seals, are being poured out on the earth. Everybody dies by the end, everywhere on earth, everywhere. AND THEY REPENTED NOT, it tells over and over. All but 144,000 jewish people, Gods people are sealed from this horror. Nobody can escape or live through the wrath of God!!! Nobody, unless you think God can't hurt you? Boy I fear the Lord God Almighty the Creator of all things, Alpha, Omega, Beginning, and End. Yes I fear thee O'Lord, a loving fear. How many times did those who were not sealed or protected, given early warning of course, live through Gods destruction, or wrath, in scripture? .........0000000+000=0, thats right nemero uno, zero, none!!
Then the Lord comes with His ten thousands saints, to execute judgement on all, Jude. May be us people, if we can endure. Gods prepairing me, my wife and son, my family. He has been dressing us up in that Armor of God, so thay we may stand. Endure, longsuffering, giving up my head for my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, who gave all, including His life for me.......mmmmm.....OK, where do I sign up?
Then the beast and the false phrophet are thrown into the lake of fire. Satan is bound in the pit, (A different place as far as I can see).
Then in comes Christs thousand year reign. Satan at the end of this literal period is the loosed for a season. Gathers up and deceives the nations one last time. his army numbers as the sands of the sea. The encompass the camp of the saints, to overtake them. God sends destruction to them from Heaven.
Then God destroys Heaven and earth, then makes a new Heaven and Earth, wherein will dwell rightousness. The wolf shall lay with the lamb, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock...................
So I asked where's these "left behinders", powerful enough to escape Gods wrath, destrution and still live, and get saved no less?? Nowhere! Here on earth still deceived, I pressume? If you are one of them, Ive been praying for you. I once believed this heresy to.
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
(Ephesians 10-18)
Soldier ready to endure;
Brother Jerm
Keep in mind, I'm only a man saved by grace, everlearning to come to the knowledge of the truth. I have been wrong before, and WILL be wrong again. I don't claim perfection. I'm not Jesus. I admitt I am going to be wrong. I just keep praying for the Holy Spirit to convict me, and show me the paths of rightousness. I only interpret scripture the best that I can. I am an imperfect flesh trying to serve a perfect God. Amen
Anyway got way off the subject. I think I'll start A bible study of the life and ministry of Paul.....mmmm......., Ya cool I think I will. So all join in!
So what I'm trying to say if in first, rejection is is your option taken, look a little deeper, scripture will reprove all lies, like this blasting out of here in a "Rapture" before tribulation starts.
Before Christ comes to gather us, I believe we must endure tribulation. Many will become martyrs as Steven. Being beheaded for the witness of Christ. Some will remain, God sustainting them from the pain through their faith. They will preach the word of God as powerful as ever. Two of them the two witnesses will be killed then brought back to life. Things are going to get very troublesome. So if you can't stand and endure sound doctrine now how can you then, in times of trouble??
Oddly enough The word rapture is never used, I don't fall for the false greek interpretation of "Rapturo". I believe in Christs second coming. Daniel states 3 1/2 years, from the time the daily sacrifice is again implemented into Solomons temple with the daily sacrifice over the Ark of the Covenant, untill the abomination of desolation is set up. The anti-christ himself claiming to be God, I pressume. Well the job isn't open, its already filled by the only qualifying entries, God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit of God!!
Then great tribulation (Gods wrath), note not "The 7 year Tribulation", will begin. Nothing short of our departure to meet the Lord in the air. Then we go before the Judgement Seat of Christ, receive our crowns (rewards for our decisions on earth now), then attend the Marriage supper of the Lamb (Talk about Spiritual meat).
As we are at the Supper, Gods wrath, 6th and 7th broken seals, are being poured out on the earth. Everybody dies by the end, everywhere on earth, everywhere. AND THEY REPENTED NOT, it tells over and over. All but 144,000 jewish people, Gods people are sealed from this horror. Nobody can escape or live through the wrath of God!!! Nobody, unless you think God can't hurt you? Boy I fear the Lord God Almighty the Creator of all things, Alpha, Omega, Beginning, and End. Yes I fear thee O'Lord, a loving fear. How many times did those who were not sealed or protected, given early warning of course, live through Gods destruction, or wrath, in scripture? .........0000000+000=0, thats right nemero uno, zero, none!!
Then the Lord comes with His ten thousands saints, to execute judgement on all, Jude. May be us people, if we can endure. Gods prepairing me, my wife and son, my family. He has been dressing us up in that Armor of God, so thay we may stand. Endure, longsuffering, giving up my head for my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, who gave all, including His life for me.......mmmmm.....OK, where do I sign up?
Then the beast and the false phrophet are thrown into the lake of fire. Satan is bound in the pit, (A different place as far as I can see).
Then in comes Christs thousand year reign. Satan at the end of this literal period is the loosed for a season. Gathers up and deceives the nations one last time. his army numbers as the sands of the sea. The encompass the camp of the saints, to overtake them. God sends destruction to them from Heaven.
Then God destroys Heaven and earth, then makes a new Heaven and Earth, wherein will dwell rightousness. The wolf shall lay with the lamb, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock...................
So I asked where's these "left behinders", powerful enough to escape Gods wrath, destrution and still live, and get saved no less?? Nowhere! Here on earth still deceived, I pressume? If you are one of them, Ive been praying for you. I once believed this heresy to.
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
(Ephesians 10-18)
Soldier ready to endure;
Brother Jerm
Keep in mind, I'm only a man saved by grace, everlearning to come to the knowledge of the truth. I have been wrong before, and WILL be wrong again. I don't claim perfection. I'm not Jesus. I admitt I am going to be wrong. I just keep praying for the Holy Spirit to convict me, and show me the paths of rightousness. I only interpret scripture the best that I can. I am an imperfect flesh trying to serve a perfect God. Amen