Post by Watchman on Dec 16, 2006 10:36:18 GMT -5
TBN - TRINITY BROADCAST NETWORK -- TEMPLE OF THE GREEK GOD AND GODDESS
Subtitle: When you understand the unchristian doctrines being promoted by TBN, your skin will crawl with horror! You will realize that TBN is "Christian In Appearance Without Being Christian In Theology" -- When you hear Kenneth Copeland call God a Failure, you will know the truth!
Remember Warning From Apostle Paul? "Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first - unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come - and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition)" [2 Thess 2:3] False Christian churches are prophesied as opening door to Antichrist!
The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what this New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!!
YOU ARE NOW ON THE CUTTING EDGE
Paw Creek Ministries Note: "The majority of the information contained in this article was taken from Trinity Broadcast Network telecasts. I personally listened to every word from the voices of each person quoted in this article." Senior Editor.
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If there is one thing certain about Paul and Jan Crouch, it is that nothing is certain. Whether the guest of Trinity Broadcast Network is a religious leader who is fairly fundamental in doctrine or a "way-out" person who says almost nothing that makes Biblical sense, they both are welcomed and applauded as great teachers. For one hour of the "Praise The Lord" show, you may hear someone trusted by much of the church world, preaching the Truth, but the next hour hear the babble of Kim Clement. Theology, or Biblical truth, is just not important to TBN.
TBN Is Religious Entertainment
In fact, Paul Crouch calls Biblical theology "doo-doo". On a Praise The Lord telecast, he shouted, "Let Him (God) sort out all this doctrinal doo-doo, I don't care about it". He apparently hates no one worse than those he calls "heresy hunters". On another occasion he spoke to his worldwide audience by stating, "Heretic hunters, those guys who spend their lives straightening us all out doctrinally, they are going to go straight to hell." (You could hear Jan laughing approvingly on the set.)
Here are a man and woman that controls the message about the Word of God and the airing of the messages of the most noted televangelists to the greatest single audience in the world, yet they hate correction and Biblical reproof. Listen to God's warning:
"Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die." [Prov 15:10]
This is a formula for spiritual disaster and that is what is already occurring. When Crouch, Hinn, and Copeland are displaying such a hatred for anyone who will dare Biblically reprove them, God's correction, when it comes, will be both "grievous" and "deadly".
Now listen to three additional statements that show Paul Crouch's disdain for anyone that dares to question the messages of his guests on Trinity Broadcast Network
Transcribed From Trinity Broadcasting Network "Praise The Lord" Show:
* "I refuse to argue any longer with any of you out there. Don't even call me if you want to argue doctrine, If you want to straighten somebody out over here, if you want to criticize Kenneth Copeland for his preaching on faith of Dad Hagin, get out of my life. I don't ever want to talk to you or hear, I don't want to see your ugly face."
* "I think they are damned and on their way to hell and I don't think there is any redemption for them. I say, 'to hell with you'."
* "I say, 'Get out of God's way, quit blocking God's bridges (Apparently, he defines God's bridges as the One World Church and Ecumenism of the coming Kingdom of Antichrist).
* "God Is going to shoot you if I don't"
What Do Paul And Jan Really Believe?
Either they do not know what they believe or they do not care. Their guests present some of the wildest possible heresies that can possibly be spread to a gullible audience. Two of their newest stars/idols are Phil Munsey and Kim Clement. The mainstays of the last five to twenty years have come from well-known Tel-evangelists that continually teach questionable doctrines that have already destroyed a multitude of believers. We want to simply provide quotes from TBN telecasts and their guests and then compare those quotes to the light of clear biblical truth. The picture that will emerge will represent some of the absolute darkest heresies available in the christian church world. The problem is that these TBN people -- whose actual words you will read -- are not called cultic, or unchristian. They operate in the supposedly sane world of true Christianity. You must let God's Word help you recognize the truth. Your spiritual life and your eternal destiny are absolutely at stake.
The "Force Of Faith" Vs. The "Faith Of Our Fathers"
Nothing we discuss in this article is more important than this definition of faith - saving faith. God is either the Sovereign and Eternal God that has revealed Himself in His book of faith (The Holy Bible) or He is a pagan god that operates much like Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, and others describe. Listen carefully to this explanation of TBN faith.
* Kenneth Copeland: "The force of faith is in the spiritual realm a great deal like certain forces in the natural realm. It is a spiritual force, like gravity is a natural force, and electricity is a natural force of power."
* Paul Crouch: "A measurable natural force."
* Kenneth Copeland: "It's a measurable force, it's conductible, it's perceptible to the touch... Faith is a spiritual tone, it's perceptible,.. . It is a tangible force, it's an invisible force, so is gravity, but it is there."
* Paul Crouch: "So is electricity.. Does God use faith?"
* Kenneth Copeland: "Surely."
* Paul Crouch: "...See, here is the sore spot. There are those who say..."
* Jan Crouch: "Not with him." (speaking of Copeland)
* Paul Crouch: "Not with you." (lots of laughter follows)
* Jan Crouch: "Not with God."
* Kenneth Copeland "..the fact. No, I'm not sore at God at all and I don't think He's sore at me. . .1 haven't done anything to Him."
* Paul Crouch: ".. . The critics say God is God, He doesn't have to have faith; He doesn't exercise faith. He doesn't use faith. He's God. He's the object of faith."
* Kenneth Copeland: "...Wait a minute, what does that mean? Object of faith. I don't know what that means."
* Jan Crouch: "I don't either."
Can you believe the Biblical ignorance on display with the "Reverend" Ken Copeland and Jan Crouch, as they admit they do not understand what "Object of faith" means? It means the Person to Whom we direct our faith! God is that Object, because He alone is Worthy, Omnipotent, Eternal, and Omniscient. We direct our "saving faith" to Jesus Christ alone, for He alone is worthy and He alone is the One to Whom God the Father has entrusted all matters of judgment and reward [John 5:22]
What Does The Bible Say About Faith?
The definition of Biblical faith has no kinship to this "Force of Faith" espoused by Copeland, and Paul and Jan Crouch. In the above statement by Kenneth Copeland, God is said to use faith just like Copeland uses faith. Faith ceases to be the lofty and eternal truth forever settled in the Heavens and established by an eternal God that is Himself the Object our faith. But, to TBN, this faith becomes a formula or a New Age force that is a pagan idea, clearly akin to the many teachings of the occult.
In fact, Copeland's teaching is straight from Antichrist! Listen:
The new religion of the Antichrist is prophesied to be a religion of "forces". Daniel prophesied this clear warning.
"But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honor with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things." (Daniel 11:38)
To even suggest faith as a "force" is to deny God as an eternal being to whom we turn in truth and faith for all our sufficiency, and for our solid hope of eternal life in Heaven. It actually reduces God to the level of man. Real faith is clearly seen in Apostle Paul's beautiful description to the Hebrews. Listen to his biblical statement of faith:
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
"But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." (Hebrews 11: 1,3,6).
In true Faith God is the "Absolute, the Eternal Sovereign God" in whom we rest all our hopes.
This our greatest assurance! Doctrines are the anchor of our soul, especially as we face eternity! To deny key doctrines is to take away our greatest single source of assurance and spiritual confidence! Why would any leader want to take away precious spiritual confidence in our eternal destiny by repudiating key doctrines of the Faith?
Copeland: God Is The Biggest "Failure" In The Bible
When you join together the concept of faith as a "force" with a God that became the biggest failure in the universe, you are laying the foundation for a "pagan cult" or a "paranormal religion".
Listen to this TBN telecast where biblical doctrines are cast to the wind:
* Kenneth Copeland: "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is."
* Paul Crouch: "Okay."
* Kenneth Copeland: "You know everybody you ask, you say, 'Who's the biggest failure?' They say, 'Judas' Somebody else will say, 'No,! believe it was Adam.' Well, how about the devil?"
* Paul Crouch: (Sound of amazement)
* Kenneth Copeland "He's the most consistent failure.., but he's not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest in the whole Bible is God.. . . Wait, wait. Don't you turn that set off. You listen to us. I told you... . Now, you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldn't tell something I can't prove by the Bible.
"He lost His top ranking of His most anointed angel, the first man He ever created, the first woman He ever created, the whole earth and all the fullness therein, a third of the angels at least. That's a big loss, man! I mean, you figure up all of that, that's a lot of real estate, gone down the drain. Now, the reason you don't think of God as a failure, He never said He's a failure. (Paul Crouch and others laughing on the set.) And you are not a failure until you say you are one."
This definition of "failure" is ridiculous. A person is a failure if they do not reach a certain standard set beforehand. This definition of "failure" is at least as ridiculous as the statement said to me one day by a salesman trying to convince me it was just fine to lie to my clients.
"David, it is not a lie if, when you say it, you are smiling." You laugh at this nonsense, but Copeland's definition of a "failure" is just as ridiculous.
Does The Bible Suggest That God Was A Failure?
Our Sovereign God created us in His image that we might bring honor and glory to Him and have eternal fellowship together. He desired our love and He wanted that love to be our choice. He wanted our obedience, but He wanted that obedience to be our choice. To suggest that God was a failure because Adam and Even made a sinful choice is ridiculous; such error is the kind of disinformation you would expect from the chief enemy of God, Satan himself! Such belief completely alters the entire Biblical account of man's fall, Satan's fall, and the terrible results that occurred. Our world would certainly be a different place if man had not sinned, but not for one moment was God ever a failure. The only failure was found in those that sinned. He never ceased to be the God of His universe or of the spiritual world where His Will is forever being done.
If you believe God was, and is, a failure, you reduce Him to mere man. Therefore, you have instantly obliterated all -- I repeat, ALL -- of the great and precious promises of the Bible! Every single promise relating to Redemption, Justification, Eternal Salvation, "No Condemnation" [John 3:18; Romans 8:1], and so many other promises are instantly obliterated! This belief renders the Bible worthless and invalid. Your study of the Bible and commentaries and good study materials on individual books of the Bible and important topics are now exercises in futility if you believe this nonsense. You gravitate toward "Christian psychology", which is exactly where the Christian Bookstore Industry is languishing right now.
The Biblical account of the years that have transpired since Satan's fall are filled with God's story and the revelations that have never ceased to unfold. King David made it clear who rules this Universe and it has never been the devil. His inspired words speak volumes.
"The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doom; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah." (Psalm 24:1-10)
You have the choice of believing Copeland, the Crouches, TBN, and the Charismatic Movement, or God and His true prophets. Reducing God is a constant theme of these diluted pundits (self-proclaimed authorities), but His majesty is undefeatable.
The foolishness of this crowd gets worse.
Subtitle: When you understand the unchristian doctrines being promoted by TBN, your skin will crawl with horror! You will realize that TBN is "Christian In Appearance Without Being Christian In Theology" -- When you hear Kenneth Copeland call God a Failure, you will know the truth!
Remember Warning From Apostle Paul? "Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first - unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come - and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition)" [2 Thess 2:3] False Christian churches are prophesied as opening door to Antichrist!
The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what this New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!!
YOU ARE NOW ON THE CUTTING EDGE
Paw Creek Ministries Note: "The majority of the information contained in this article was taken from Trinity Broadcast Network telecasts. I personally listened to every word from the voices of each person quoted in this article." Senior Editor.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If there is one thing certain about Paul and Jan Crouch, it is that nothing is certain. Whether the guest of Trinity Broadcast Network is a religious leader who is fairly fundamental in doctrine or a "way-out" person who says almost nothing that makes Biblical sense, they both are welcomed and applauded as great teachers. For one hour of the "Praise The Lord" show, you may hear someone trusted by much of the church world, preaching the Truth, but the next hour hear the babble of Kim Clement. Theology, or Biblical truth, is just not important to TBN.
TBN Is Religious Entertainment
In fact, Paul Crouch calls Biblical theology "doo-doo". On a Praise The Lord telecast, he shouted, "Let Him (God) sort out all this doctrinal doo-doo, I don't care about it". He apparently hates no one worse than those he calls "heresy hunters". On another occasion he spoke to his worldwide audience by stating, "Heretic hunters, those guys who spend their lives straightening us all out doctrinally, they are going to go straight to hell." (You could hear Jan laughing approvingly on the set.)
Here are a man and woman that controls the message about the Word of God and the airing of the messages of the most noted televangelists to the greatest single audience in the world, yet they hate correction and Biblical reproof. Listen to God's warning:
"Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die." [Prov 15:10]
This is a formula for spiritual disaster and that is what is already occurring. When Crouch, Hinn, and Copeland are displaying such a hatred for anyone who will dare Biblically reprove them, God's correction, when it comes, will be both "grievous" and "deadly".
Now listen to three additional statements that show Paul Crouch's disdain for anyone that dares to question the messages of his guests on Trinity Broadcast Network
Transcribed From Trinity Broadcasting Network "Praise The Lord" Show:
* "I refuse to argue any longer with any of you out there. Don't even call me if you want to argue doctrine, If you want to straighten somebody out over here, if you want to criticize Kenneth Copeland for his preaching on faith of Dad Hagin, get out of my life. I don't ever want to talk to you or hear, I don't want to see your ugly face."
* "I think they are damned and on their way to hell and I don't think there is any redemption for them. I say, 'to hell with you'."
* "I say, 'Get out of God's way, quit blocking God's bridges (Apparently, he defines God's bridges as the One World Church and Ecumenism of the coming Kingdom of Antichrist).
* "God Is going to shoot you if I don't"
What Do Paul And Jan Really Believe?
Either they do not know what they believe or they do not care. Their guests present some of the wildest possible heresies that can possibly be spread to a gullible audience. Two of their newest stars/idols are Phil Munsey and Kim Clement. The mainstays of the last five to twenty years have come from well-known Tel-evangelists that continually teach questionable doctrines that have already destroyed a multitude of believers. We want to simply provide quotes from TBN telecasts and their guests and then compare those quotes to the light of clear biblical truth. The picture that will emerge will represent some of the absolute darkest heresies available in the christian church world. The problem is that these TBN people -- whose actual words you will read -- are not called cultic, or unchristian. They operate in the supposedly sane world of true Christianity. You must let God's Word help you recognize the truth. Your spiritual life and your eternal destiny are absolutely at stake.
The "Force Of Faith" Vs. The "Faith Of Our Fathers"
Nothing we discuss in this article is more important than this definition of faith - saving faith. God is either the Sovereign and Eternal God that has revealed Himself in His book of faith (The Holy Bible) or He is a pagan god that operates much like Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, and others describe. Listen carefully to this explanation of TBN faith.
* Kenneth Copeland: "The force of faith is in the spiritual realm a great deal like certain forces in the natural realm. It is a spiritual force, like gravity is a natural force, and electricity is a natural force of power."
* Paul Crouch: "A measurable natural force."
* Kenneth Copeland: "It's a measurable force, it's conductible, it's perceptible to the touch... Faith is a spiritual tone, it's perceptible,.. . It is a tangible force, it's an invisible force, so is gravity, but it is there."
* Paul Crouch: "So is electricity.. Does God use faith?"
* Kenneth Copeland: "Surely."
* Paul Crouch: "...See, here is the sore spot. There are those who say..."
* Jan Crouch: "Not with him." (speaking of Copeland)
* Paul Crouch: "Not with you." (lots of laughter follows)
* Jan Crouch: "Not with God."
* Kenneth Copeland "..the fact. No, I'm not sore at God at all and I don't think He's sore at me. . .1 haven't done anything to Him."
* Paul Crouch: ".. . The critics say God is God, He doesn't have to have faith; He doesn't exercise faith. He doesn't use faith. He's God. He's the object of faith."
* Kenneth Copeland: "...Wait a minute, what does that mean? Object of faith. I don't know what that means."
* Jan Crouch: "I don't either."
Can you believe the Biblical ignorance on display with the "Reverend" Ken Copeland and Jan Crouch, as they admit they do not understand what "Object of faith" means? It means the Person to Whom we direct our faith! God is that Object, because He alone is Worthy, Omnipotent, Eternal, and Omniscient. We direct our "saving faith" to Jesus Christ alone, for He alone is worthy and He alone is the One to Whom God the Father has entrusted all matters of judgment and reward [John 5:22]
What Does The Bible Say About Faith?
The definition of Biblical faith has no kinship to this "Force of Faith" espoused by Copeland, and Paul and Jan Crouch. In the above statement by Kenneth Copeland, God is said to use faith just like Copeland uses faith. Faith ceases to be the lofty and eternal truth forever settled in the Heavens and established by an eternal God that is Himself the Object our faith. But, to TBN, this faith becomes a formula or a New Age force that is a pagan idea, clearly akin to the many teachings of the occult.
In fact, Copeland's teaching is straight from Antichrist! Listen:
The new religion of the Antichrist is prophesied to be a religion of "forces". Daniel prophesied this clear warning.
"But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honor with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things." (Daniel 11:38)
To even suggest faith as a "force" is to deny God as an eternal being to whom we turn in truth and faith for all our sufficiency, and for our solid hope of eternal life in Heaven. It actually reduces God to the level of man. Real faith is clearly seen in Apostle Paul's beautiful description to the Hebrews. Listen to his biblical statement of faith:
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
"But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." (Hebrews 11: 1,3,6).
In true Faith God is the "Absolute, the Eternal Sovereign God" in whom we rest all our hopes.
This our greatest assurance! Doctrines are the anchor of our soul, especially as we face eternity! To deny key doctrines is to take away our greatest single source of assurance and spiritual confidence! Why would any leader want to take away precious spiritual confidence in our eternal destiny by repudiating key doctrines of the Faith?
Copeland: God Is The Biggest "Failure" In The Bible
When you join together the concept of faith as a "force" with a God that became the biggest failure in the universe, you are laying the foundation for a "pagan cult" or a "paranormal religion".
Listen to this TBN telecast where biblical doctrines are cast to the wind:
* Kenneth Copeland: "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is."
* Paul Crouch: "Okay."
* Kenneth Copeland: "You know everybody you ask, you say, 'Who's the biggest failure?' They say, 'Judas' Somebody else will say, 'No,! believe it was Adam.' Well, how about the devil?"
* Paul Crouch: (Sound of amazement)
* Kenneth Copeland "He's the most consistent failure.., but he's not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest in the whole Bible is God.. . . Wait, wait. Don't you turn that set off. You listen to us. I told you... . Now, you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldn't tell something I can't prove by the Bible.
"He lost His top ranking of His most anointed angel, the first man He ever created, the first woman He ever created, the whole earth and all the fullness therein, a third of the angels at least. That's a big loss, man! I mean, you figure up all of that, that's a lot of real estate, gone down the drain. Now, the reason you don't think of God as a failure, He never said He's a failure. (Paul Crouch and others laughing on the set.) And you are not a failure until you say you are one."
This definition of "failure" is ridiculous. A person is a failure if they do not reach a certain standard set beforehand. This definition of "failure" is at least as ridiculous as the statement said to me one day by a salesman trying to convince me it was just fine to lie to my clients.
"David, it is not a lie if, when you say it, you are smiling." You laugh at this nonsense, but Copeland's definition of a "failure" is just as ridiculous.
Does The Bible Suggest That God Was A Failure?
Our Sovereign God created us in His image that we might bring honor and glory to Him and have eternal fellowship together. He desired our love and He wanted that love to be our choice. He wanted our obedience, but He wanted that obedience to be our choice. To suggest that God was a failure because Adam and Even made a sinful choice is ridiculous; such error is the kind of disinformation you would expect from the chief enemy of God, Satan himself! Such belief completely alters the entire Biblical account of man's fall, Satan's fall, and the terrible results that occurred. Our world would certainly be a different place if man had not sinned, but not for one moment was God ever a failure. The only failure was found in those that sinned. He never ceased to be the God of His universe or of the spiritual world where His Will is forever being done.
If you believe God was, and is, a failure, you reduce Him to mere man. Therefore, you have instantly obliterated all -- I repeat, ALL -- of the great and precious promises of the Bible! Every single promise relating to Redemption, Justification, Eternal Salvation, "No Condemnation" [John 3:18; Romans 8:1], and so many other promises are instantly obliterated! This belief renders the Bible worthless and invalid. Your study of the Bible and commentaries and good study materials on individual books of the Bible and important topics are now exercises in futility if you believe this nonsense. You gravitate toward "Christian psychology", which is exactly where the Christian Bookstore Industry is languishing right now.
The Biblical account of the years that have transpired since Satan's fall are filled with God's story and the revelations that have never ceased to unfold. King David made it clear who rules this Universe and it has never been the devil. His inspired words speak volumes.
"The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doom; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah." (Psalm 24:1-10)
You have the choice of believing Copeland, the Crouches, TBN, and the Charismatic Movement, or God and His true prophets. Reducing God is a constant theme of these diluted pundits (self-proclaimed authorities), but His majesty is undefeatable.
The foolishness of this crowd gets worse.